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PARTITION: Tape 75
TAPE 75
Writer
255MODEM
Mod Date & Time
255MODEM Apr 25 15:23
Side A
Gopal 'Patha' MUKHERJEE - continued
8 > ... (development of riot on evening of 16th)
45 > the next day, M groups from other area came in big
processions and entered this park [Wellington Sq] ...
that time I had two American pistols with me, loaded
115 > ...
146 > ... (re the murder of Hiren Ghose, and alleged
involvement of Suhrawardy)
21S > ...
25C > of course, it was a v critical time for the co; we
thought that the co had to be saved; we thought if
the whole area becomes Pak, there'll be more torture
and more repression, so i called all my boys and sd
this is the time when we have to retaliate, and you
have to answer brutality with brutality, so if you
come to know that one murder has taken place, you
commit 10 murders ... the ration sd be 1 to 10,
that was the order to my boys [NA translation OK] **
271 > [so how many murders?] it's v diff't cos we didn't
keep any score, I gave them that order, so basically]
they were carryong out my order (and about 3/4 of
own boys killed)
288 > [how did you kill?] basically people used all sorts
of weapons, they had small knives, big choppers and
sticks and rods, guns, pistols, we secured some
weapons during the 42 movement ... during WW2 the
Am army was also in Calcutta, the negros were here,
and if you paid them 250 Rs they wd give you one
pistol and 100 catridges, if you buy then one bottle
of whisky, they wd give you 1 pistol and 100
cartridges, that way we secured all these weapons ...
***
310 > [who wre you killing?] the rioters we were fighting with
who attacked us , but why sd we kill an ordinary
rickshaw wala or hawker, they were not part of the
politics ... basically people who attacked us ... we
fought them and killed them ... we prepared some
country bombs, we'd also secured some grenades from the
Am army ... to camouflage myself [from the police] I
grew a beard and long hair
330 > (had a meat shop, that's why known as 'pata' or goat)
336 > (gave strict orders to boys not to misbhave with women,
and notn to loot)
345 > . . .
357 > yes, if you like you can call it an army, but we were all
in plin clothes .. and we had secured some arms and
e/body knew we had some arms ...
365 > it's not a qn of pride, it;s basically duty; but I
thought I had to help the people in distress
371 > ... some of my boys even attemped to kill S;dy ...
390 > ... [translated on next side]
Title Writer Mod Date & Time St
PARTITION: Tape 76 255MODEM 255MODEM Apr 25 17:13 R*
TAPE 76
Jolly Mohan KAUL
a Kashmiri Pandit by origin; 75; was active in Kidapur (port) area
of city in 46 - sec of Port Trust Employees Assn, then one of
largest TUs in Cal, and mbr of district cttee of CPI; in CPI till
early 60s; was in a CP-dominated TU march to the Maidan on Direct
Action day - spent the evening in a Muslim basti, hiding out in a
TU office: interviewed at flat in Calcutta, 26 April 1997
187 > background to direct action day - and landmark genl
strike of 29 July 46 in support of postal workers
218 - 'when the call by the ML for the 16th Aug Direct
Action Day came, we found ourselves in a diff't sitn;
it is not correct to say ... we supp'd or had even
indiretc sympathy with that DA day call; we were comp
opposed to it, we knew it was highly disrutpive and
provocative ... we felt it was comp wrong to use that
kind of tactics rto get Pak'
232 - 'the prob before us was, take a place like port, let's
make it abs concrete, where def more than 60% of the
workers were M, a v large % from e Bengal ... the
dilemma that faced us was that we knew that as far as
the call from the ML for direct action day was concerned,
it wd evoke response from the M workers; if the H workers
resisted that - crane is being oprated the driver may
have been a M, but his helper a H, ... if the crane
driver wants to go on strike, and his helper doesn't
want to go on strike, there can be a clash, a fight'
255 - 'we came to a v deliberate concn that the only way to
maintain the TU solidarity of the w/c, to prevent
physical clashes ... wd be to go along with the strike,
and therefore we decided in the port, and I bel the same
decn was taken in the tram union also, and gen by the
party, that where there are mixed section of Hs and Ms,
we'll all go on strike'
266 - 'we even decided we will march together to the Maidan,#
where the mtg was going to take place, I was there
marching, we were hoping that as a result of this we wd
be able to maintain the unity of the w/c ...'
274 - 'we got to the Maidan, but by the time we reached the M'n
we realised that the riots had broken out, we found dead
bodies on the way, so we imm folded up our flags and told
the workers, let's march back: let us try and see if we
can save our locality at least from the riots'
285 - 'I think our tactics did pay off; we kept the port and
dock workers ... the org'd TU m'ment in Cal was able to
... maintain the bsolidarity of the H and M workers'
(as proven by support for later strikes)
320 - [Gt Cal Killing] 'they were not spon riots; later on,
when the frenzy was roused, there was spon killing,
but there was no atmos of riots in Cal ... do you think
I wd have risked H workers in a ML rally if I though
we'd not been able to control the riots;'
328 - 'cert the ML l'ship here was involved, no doubt about it
... and cd have hatched this cons'ey with the officials
here, who were mainly British'
339 > re spill over to Noakhali
369 > CP's confusions over policy to Pak, and criticism of it
from within
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