PARTITION: Tape 43 Writer 255MODEM Mod Date & Time 255MODEM Mar 16 12:01 TAPE 43 Side A Group-Captain A.C. JOLLY; Hindu - interviewed at his home in Chandigarh, 15 March 1997 5 - grew up in village of Dakha nr Ludhiana, mix of Jat Sikhs Hs, and Ms; 10% Ms, 20% Hs, 65% Ss, 5% SCs 20 - 'the tension started imm after the news came that a lot of Hs and Ss had been killed in Pak; the trains had been mass'd; the vill was full of tension, and the villagers told the Ms you'd better leave the place ...' 31 - word reached thro 'vernacular, press, Urdu papers ... they used to come daily from Lahore; they were spreading a lot of word around' 45 - in vill 'till about 45 reins were abs cordial; the Ms were mainly oil-crushers ... and persons who made cotton cloth; the other comms were dependent on them and they were dependent on other comms' 61 - political tensions from late 46 after Unionist govt fell; lot of rumours spreading; no ML're came to village 76 - 'tension built up so much, the maj comm villagers, told the Ms, you'd better pack up, we'll drop you in the camp; they took them in the camp, I ws not in the vill that time - I'd gone to Ambala, but when we came back we leant from the other villagers that the goonda elements in the vill of the majo comm ... Ss and Hs all, they took them to the jungle which was between the# two villages and killed the whole lot ... all the Ms who were present at that time ... must be 100 or so ... men, women and children' 100 - 'we were horrified you cd do this to the people who'd grown up together, who'd played with us in our ch'hood but one couldn't say anything, you'd get a retort from people, look you've gone and seen the train that came full of dead bodies ...' 113 - 'motive was mainly to loot the people, there was no other motive, whatever possessions they had was plundered' 120 - all land in village owned by Sikhs 127 - 'most of the attackers were those who had dropped out of school who were good for nothing as the m'c people thought ... the real attackers were not from the normal community' 137 - today no Ms in that vill, 'no Ms at all' 148 - Ms houses taken over by govt as evacuee property 154 - Ms out of village on day of attack 'ran away to Pak'; 'people who were well to do ... they never came back to vill; it was lower m/c and poor people who were the target of this massacre' 162 - had been no mosque in village 166 - maj of attackers Jat Ss 169 - communities had 'same language, same living, except thart Ms and Hs never ate together, they ahd sep kitchens, sep eating habits; most of the Hs were veg, and most of the Ms were mixed veg and non-veg' 178 - wd not eat with Ms in the village; but had Ms friends in upper strata who wd eat with 185 > recollections of visiting Lyallpuir before partition