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PARTITION: Tape 21 255MODEM 255MODEM Nov 11 16:06
TAPE 21
Continuing recordings made on a trip to
Wagah/Amritsar/Sialkot/Lahore
Side A
i/v in Lahore with Arif NIZAMI, editor of 'The Nation, which
publishes a column by Kuldip Nayar [background buzz] (8/11/96)
12 > Nayar's column; considered to be a pro-Pak journo in
India, only underlines depth of bilateral problems
28 - 'it's not only that Mr Kuldip Nayar can't come here,
Indian newspapers can't reach Pak, they're noty
allowed, similarly Pak n'papers are not allowed
there, so you're right it's a sort of anom sitn which
sd be redressed and travel restrictions between the
two cos sh be eased'
40 - dissemination of info wd help in both countries
47 - [reins still poisnoned by legacy of partn] 'abs they
are cos the legacy of partition like ... the Kashmir
problem, and the perception that India is a very big
n'bour which wants to demonstrate Pak, and the wars
which we've had ... and in Pak there is the perception
that India broke Pak into two in 1971, so this kind
of legacy can only poison relations, unless there is
the goodwill on both sides, which unf has been lacking'
esp Congress and S Block in India
76 - 'I wd say the K problem is the basis of the legacy of
patition ... we are in an adversarial kind of
rel'ship with India'
84 - optimistic about non-Cong govt in India
94 - 'I think KN is the one journo in India who projects Pak
not as a fiend, and in popular steorotypes most of
the Indian journos do, but he has certainly helped in
creating a better understanding about Pak in India +
v/v; KN's column is widely read here, and he's ...
able to show that there is an opinion in India which
criticises its own govt about its agenda'
123 - lot of Ms persecuted today in India, 'and ironically
those Ms from UP who really were in teh f'front of the
creation of Pak were, a lot of them, those who stayed
back, and really suffered'
Lahore wildtrack
130 > tongas near the Delhi gate just outside old Lahore
137 > chickens, same location
145 > tonga stand, same location
155 > very noisy chickens in cage
164 > street cries etc
Wagha border crossing
183 > wildtrack of Pak passport official: 'EACH DAY HOW MANY
PEOPLE? 45, 40. 30, 25. NOT BUSY? Sometimes busy,
sometimes always sitting here. ... Very difficult
to get a visa' |
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