PARTITION: tape 11 Writer 255MODEM Mod Date & Time 255MODEM Sep 04 13:28 TAPE 11 Side A RAM ADVANI - interviewed 4 July 1996 in Lucknow bookseller; Mayfair Building, Hazratganj, GPO Post Box no. 154, Lucknow 226 001; (0522) 223511 8 - from a Sindh family 10 - born in Hyderabad, Sindh in 1920; father migrated to L'now; studied in L'now, but family had business in Pakistan - and in June 1944 joined family bookselling concern as an 'apprentice' in Rawalpindi 38 - lucky to get a large shop on the Mall in Lahore, shortly before partition 47 - [re partition] 'the agitation started in Lahore as early as Jan 1946 ... there was agitations every day, processions every day on the Mall in support of Jinnah ... we felt this was pass, I never realised that partition will take place so soon* 56 - after partition anno 'we still hoped that Lahore wd be neutral ... no one knew what Radclyffe had said; so there was a rumour that 48% probably Hindus and 52% Muslims, it's touch and go, we held on to that ... altho we left R'pindi and other areas, hopng that Lahore might still be part of India, but by June we realised it was not possible, it was in flames, by June 47 Lahore was in flames' 73 - 'we never realised that the agitation wd take the turn it did ... so it was by the end of 46, if not a little earlier, we realised it was going to be diff to stay in that part of the coutnry' 82 - 'I was living in an area, where in the night we used to stand with - we didn't have arms and ammo - there was a feeling that if you were together you were safer; we did that, but we realised that sd an attach - cos it was half Ms half Hs - the Ms were in a stronger hold and we realised it was imp for us ... so we moved out to above the shop, ... and I went and stayed there' 100 - [turmoil] 'it was pretty bad in the sense that in the middle of the night when people are shouting Allah o-Akbar, A-o-A, the Hindus on the other side were shouting Jai Ram-ji or whatever it was, it gave you a very creepy feeling ... we were friends with the families, they kept assuring as not to worry, and we will stand by you, but one cd see there was a lot of hpodlums who used to come and shout ... and the lodfl people had no control over them, and I feel now that the police were looking the other way, cos the police in L at that time ... was mostly Ms' 116 - 'I had nothing whatsoever except a lathi ... if they had attacked us there was nothing we cd do; the Mall was safer cos the army was there and thro some common friends, ... we were secure' 124 - 'in June-July 47, even our friends told us it wd be